PC Users Getting the Short End of the Modern Warfare 2 Stick

[[MyIS]Zips]

According to the latest BASHandSlash recorded webcast (skip to the 1hour, 39minute mark for MW2), a number of very interesting bits of information have started to make their way onto the internet.

Robert Bowling has confirmed that the PC version of Call of Duty is essentially ruined as far as multiplayer and customization goes. Let's get a quick rundown here of what Bowling said on the webcast.

• IW has control of the game
• IWnet servers will host multiplayer
• DLC will be a charged item for PC
• No dedicated servers
• Matchmaking system used to play with similarly ranked players
• VAC instead of PB
• Semi-capable password servers
• Semi-capable ad-hoc servers
• Competitive play is dead
• MW2 mods would not be possible (not directly stated/confirmed)
• Full integration into Steam

Feel free to take it with a grain of salt. But if it's true, PC gamers just got more than a bit screwed over.

[-BJK-]

This will make COD3 look successful.

[FLeK0]

Well, they were probably unhappy with the fact that there were more free to play cod4 servers than the ones requiring people to buy the game, we'll see how some steam drm can help them. The problem's source was their decision to keep using the same dedicated server files from the quake 3 engine over the years and it got cracked in a few minutes after release every time. And all those servers were listed in the server browser, they were hard to avoid, admins were only able to ban cheaters by their IP addresses, people used hacks to get rank55 with everything unlocked, I think it was a really bad experience for the average gamer, and this could be better.
But on the other side it's hard to justify another step to murder the PC e-sport scene, I guess they just looked at american tournaments where wow and some xbox titles are the only games played for big money.
btw all those features listed in the news sound like GFWL to me, gears of war works the same way for example - and it turned out to be a great failure with only a handful of people playing it now.

[nemes1s3000]

Did IW just take a huge dump on PC gamers everywhere? AND VAC?!? You have got to be kidding.. that piece of crap system will never be as good as PB.

[[MyIS]Zips]

PB sucks, horribly. Not saying VAC is any better but it's not PB and that's already a huge plus in my book.

[Munra]

PB sucks, horribly. Not saying VAC is any better but it's not PB and that's already a huge plus in my book.

I agree PB is useless.

I dont understand No dedicated servers


So you'll have to run listen servers or only play on thier "Official servers"

When the game gets cracked and it will and they be able to make there own cracked servers.

[Linux]

Man Fuck IW... It just ruins a lot of my plans I had to do for MW2... If I can't host a Dedicated server well then that just a load of bullshit.
PB < VAC < Other programs... Nothing going to fully protect a game ever... Where their is a will there is a power for the shit.


If I don't get to run a Dedicated server, I just lost all my liking for IW... As far as this post\webcast, I've lost any liking or want to buy the game now... Way to just shit all over the community IW...

[milly9]

Total insanity to release something like this. I think a huge backlash is brewing

[raptor552]

are you fucking kidding me.

god damn you IW.

[Unregistered]

yup all a bunch of BS from -=XGS=- and -=XRM=- clans!!!!!!!!
we want to be able to have our own servers not have to deal with those dumb asses trying to keep everyone happy!

[Unregistered]

I preordered a 32 slot server and it was just refunded to me this afternoon as they have confirmed no dedicated...

FUCK YOU IW... I started a MW2 clan up to 20 people now and no real chance for competitive play... FUCK THIS...

Back to old school DOD:S now.

[Joe Cock Sucker]

Bullshit.

[Unregistered]

Have cancelled my pre-order, will not be buying this. Nice one IW!

[cikame]

You'll still be able to play modern warfare 2... whats the problem?

[AlecJ32]

You'll still be able to play modern warfare 2... whats the problem?

The people buying Modern Warfare 2 for multiplayer will not be able to enjoy the multiplayer experience anywhere near as well as they would have were they allowed to host their own servers.

[Hater of iw.]

I guess it`s back to mw as iw has pissed off so many pc users atm.
i hope the game burns and every pc owner boycotts it.

[iw hater]

Suxs to be them atm.
Also i`v canceled my pre-order.

Now just hope the game fails big time and pc owners don't buy it.
That will put a hole in there pocket.

[Unregistered]

IW can lick a lions saggy hairy flea infested nutsack

[BigDave41]

IW can lick a lions saggy hairy flea infested nutsack

I agree.

[Witness]

In my head, the main thing to keep in mind is that the news is just breaking. We don't know how this is going to develop or any of the real details.

Here are my notes from the podcast:

• IW.net allows a matchmaking system to be in place (similar to consoles)
• IW.net allows for "private" servers to be created by users
• Private servers are similar to old listen servers (think R6, UO) but with tons more control over options
• Nobody's clearly stated where the hosting of the private servers lies - user's connection or IW.net's?
• Not sure what "integration with Steam" means other than you'll be able to buy the game normally (retail store, w/ box & media) or as a digital download via Steam
• If the integration is ONLY what I just outlined, why note it? You had the same options with COD4 and COD5...
• IW.net can be changed down the road by Infinity Ward based on feedback
• We've GOT to be missing some important technical details here because fourzerotwo said that there will still be private "big" games out there
• The reason we're missing something is because bandwidth needs on a player by player basis haven't gone down in the past 10 years, they've gone up. So, if it's still possible to host big games, perhaps the hosting is off-loaded to IW.net servers somewhere

The only major hiccup would be whether the hosting is done locally by the player creating the private server. If that's the case, then I hope to fuck the netcode is streamlined or it may be tough playing anything larger than a 4v4. Worse comes to worst, we'd be back hosting matches like in the R6/RS/UO days... And we matched the fuck out of those games back in the day w/o dedicated servers.

[Hookplank]

This will make cod look good

[Witness]

This will make cod look good

Are you quoting someone else who said "This will make COD3 look good" or are you comparing the game to fish now?

[Unregistered]

http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1200

he straight up lied.

"Shack: By the way, have you changed the way multiplayer games function on the PC at all?

Robert Bowling: PC will be the same as it always was. "

[Unregistered]

CoD4 had awesome single and multiplayer.

But seeing as MW2 won't have any sort of recognisable Multiplayer, I'm just going to download it.


Plus, I am from Australia (21mil people).... why do I think they will either give us 2 servers, or like an MMO, host the server in the US and just change the clock time.


Pre-Order cancelled.

[Angry Croat]

preorder cancelled!

IW, just go to H3LL

im going back on cod2 and cod4

[Unregistered]

ya missing the 2 main points and just calling names.. its a 360 port so they're being fucking lazy.. And making us all go through their company to host means all updates/maps will cost us like they do consoles. IW turned lazy.. and greedy? Someone tell me why the FUCK Blizzard isnt getting any stick considering they are the only thing that has changed since the earlier CoDs and these 'changes to the business model' have blizz written all over them..?

[Madness23154346556]

Fucking gay....thats all i can say FUCKING GAY. me and my friends were gunna have a riot with MW-2 now were being screwed over well say goodbye to 12 preorders IWo and if that petitions right then say goodbye to 50,000

[Raygen15]

I'm just going to have to see how that is going to work. If it turns out to be awesome, good. If it turns out to be shit, then too bad. SP is three-quarters of the game for me anyway. Whatever happens, my preorder for MW2 stands.

[Unregistered]

Canceled my pre-order.

IW needs a solid PC Gamer who understand business to run the show over there. These total jackasses just let go of Millions of dollars to make a point to the PC gaming world that they didn't like the torrents of COD4 that were rampant. I do not condone pirating.

But if you leave a safe open with money lying around, people are going to take the money. It's their fault for not putting the proper security measures in place for the game and for server hosting. You don't try to ram a culture down our throat. I will never play this game on a console. FPS on a console in my opinion is just for kids.

The bottom line is, my clan is all over the US, Canada.. how in the hell do they expect someone in Maryland to host a server locally (This is why only 16 player max) when we have people scattered trying to connect. This is why all our servers are in Chicago, EVERYONE can connect with no lag and no ping.

The generalization that there are All these hacked servers is just not true. They are out there yes and out of the listed 9,000+ servers for COD4, I'll bet there is probably 10% hacked. Fine. learn from it and put measures in place to prevent it, but don't have some console kiddie throwing us to the side. We freaking made you IW and you've kicked us to the curb, the customer. If they don't understand that as a business, no matter how good the game is I will not support it if it is culturally inept. Sorry for the rant but I was shocked to hear of this and we have a 35 member crew, 32 of us have canceled our pre-orders.

IW = Arrogant pricks

[santa2142]

Suck my dick IW, ¿¿what a hell?? If I want to play premade matches by you dummys, I buy an xbox. PC is ruled by the comunity and it will never be the same if you try to set the servers

PEOPLE DONT BUY THIS CRAP!!! If I want to play random servers I go to xbox live and kill noobs from there

IW is a bunch of assholes who doesnt want to please PC gamers. The only thing we want is ours dadicated servers and of course better graphics for PC, not the crap from the consoles

CoD 4 MW is a great game, what happened to you guys??

I'll stick to the CoD 4 untill you do something better, not a crap wth no dadicated servers